Wednesday, December 28, 2011

Re: [HamBrewers] Re: Required- 9MHz Filter Specs

 

Dev and company,
 
   I agree with Pramod , i have also used on old BEL filter for 10.7Mhz .it was one of the worst filters that i have used. Finally i decided to cut it open and take the crystals.
I have tested some ot the old ITT filters also some old Intech filters they had very good symmetry and low insertion loss.
I have decided not to buy any more filters, havea look at the CDG2000 and some high perfomance radios they all use filters wurth discrete crystals. 
 
High IF design is no more a fantasy for Hb radios , with SI570 .
I currently run a 45Mhz  first IF with continous coverage with SDR doing the SSB rx and tx.
 
73
Hari   



--- On Tue, 12/27/11, pramod_birthur <vu2ttp@gmail.com> wrote:

From: pramod_birthur <vu2ttp@gmail.com>
Subject: [HamBrewers] Re: Required- 9MHz Filter Specs
To: HamBrewers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 7:01 PM

 
Dev,

I remember BEL used to sell the 9mhz filter as Ham filter, I had gone to the crystals division in connection with my old mqth work, had paid 1250 Indian Rupees for the filter along with the the 2 sideband crystals in the year 1992.

After receiving the same from them, I had checked the response in analyzer and I was disappointed with the performance of the filter due to high passband ripple and unsymmetry in the response. It was then I realized that none of the homebrew rigs using the BEL filter ever sounded good.

Instead of chasing this wild goose, you would be better off downloading the spec of the kenwood YK88S filter which is available on the internet and pass it to the chap to retain everything except the center frequency which is 8.830 mhz in that filter.

I wonder why in these modern times anyone has to go behind a lattice filter, especially when one can build a very fine set of ladder filters.

My unsolicited advice is to build a ladder filter in the region of 30 to 38 mhz with a bandwidth of 3 to 5khz and follow it with a Tayloe mod/demod, you could have a nice and simple high performance design. In this case, the tayloe mixer needs to be clocked at 4 X IF. Hence if we make the IF 30Mhz, we can take a readily available 60 Mhz oscillator module, feed it to a push-push doubler using a diode pair and drive the tayloe demod which can be fed to a 4 section polyphase network which would give you the audio from the I/Q stream coming from the tayloe mixer. I have come across a good deal of QEX articles and other projects on the internet that use this concept very effectively.

cheers
de
vu2ttp

--- In HamBrewers@yahoogroups.com, Dev Ramaprabhu <vu2dev@...> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>  
>  Season's greetings!
>  
>  Our morning QTH supplier has promised to help us( Hams+ Homebrewers) in getting/developing 9MHz XTAL filter.
>  
>  So request the Specification sheet as given out by Ms.BEL or anyone else for that matter.
>  
>  Thansk and 73s
>  
>  dev
>  
>  http://hamrmipl.blogspot.com/
>  
>

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